I have ableton live suite, that comes with max 4 live, that’s not enough, right? Do I need a separate max 9 + rnbo license?
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yeah, max 4 live does not come with rnbo
(perhaps one day, original gen~ was separate and they later rolled that into Max)
that said… you can use the demo/trial version of max. ( I think indefinitely?) comes with rnbo, and that allows you to export rnbo.
its limitation is you cannot save max/rnbo patches - which would be frustrating if you wanted to do something complex over many sessions.
however, its an ideal way to test it out, see if its interesting to you.
you could then subscribe by the month (cancel any time) , so you need both max/rnbo so about 26 eurors/month 
but, you could get a lot done in month… ( * )
Im not a fan of subs, but I think in many ways this is a reasonable way to use max/rnbo.
I find I’ use it heavily for a month or so, then don’t use it for months on end…
anyways, not here to ‘sell’ Max… as I say, you can use for free too .
( * ) I personally think the rnbo on top of max pricing is a bit ‘steep’…both perm license and sub - but I think it’s primiarly aimed at developers, some of who will sell it on, and so recoup cost?
Max with rnbo it’s on sale currently if anyone is on the fence. 50% off but still a decent chunk of cash.
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yeah… Id only advise buying if you know you are using it for a lot of stuff…
( 350 euros is still a tad heavy , imho)
pity they didn’t discount the subscriptions, I think those are more affordable / useful for most people - as its not the kind of thing you use every day/week.( *)
esp. as the trial allows you to edit etc just not save.
( * ) you can run max/rmbo patches without a sub.. so you only need when actively developing / changing.
Thank you so much for driving this to reality @TheTechnobear
Looking back to the earlier thread Any Native Plugin Development for MM Going On? - Plugins - MetaModule Forum .. I hope this is only the beginning of a rich legacy!
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you’re welcome, hope you give it a go - here to help if you have any issues.
a couple of tips:
a) docs vs video…
the docs contained in the repo, will always be more up to date than the video.
the video is a good overview, but things change.
in particular, if users have issues, then I’ll often go into the docs and add clarifications, but Im unlikely to re-shoot a new video 
b) start simple !
my experience with this, and similar projects is - you can get a LOT of value by doing something super simple ! take a single simple RNBO object, and create a patch with it.
example:
create a filter based on butterworth~, it only has an single audio input and a parameter for frequency - so one inlet, one parameter. get that working on vcv/MM
probably THE best thing about Max is every object has an example patch and help, its fantastic if you are new to DSP.
it can be really satisfying, just getting this initially step working, creating something of your own !!
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