would be amazing at some point to be able to plug the mm into a computer (via usb-c>a cable? or perhaps a new 4ms expander module?) or ios device, and have it show as an audio/midi i/o in order to stream cv or music back forth from bitwig/ableton or drambo/mirack for examples
This is much requested!
I can see the draw to want this. But-- we have this one in the “Maybe Someday” pile.
Here’s the reasoning for our hesitation:
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It’s a bit off-topic (maybe even antithetical) to the purpose the MetaModule, which is to be a platform for making music on hardware, not on a computer
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USB Audio is a complex feature requiring lots of testing for compatibility with various OS’s, as well as handling USB issues. Also there would need to be a lifetime of support as Apple, Microsoft and various Linux distros release new versions.
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USB Audio interfaces are already products you can buy today, and I don’t have any ideas for improvements on those devices, so we’d just be re-inventing a wheel.
So, in short, it’s possible to do, but it’s taking away from adding more modules, improving the UI workflow, improving the plugin ecosystem, and all the other things that are what makes the MetaModule unique.
ty for responding, that all makes sense! and i know there will be an expander leveraging midi out, but of course my portable/small live-set skiff will be chock full w 2 metamodules. i’m curious: will midi out also work via the usb-c on the mm, using a class compliant usb<->din adapter like this (which i currently use no problems, to pass midi to from ios apps and synths):
https://www.amazon.com/yan-Interface-Converter-Keyboard-Adapter/dp/B07YC66PC5
In theory that MIDI-USB converter dongle should work, I would hope so. Every keyboard and controller I could get my hands on worked perfectly. If it does work, will you report back here?
Also, the MetaModule only receives MIDI (so you can connect MIDI OUT from a keyboard or controller to MIDI IN on the MetaModule). We might add MIDI OUT to the MetaModule but as of now there aren’t any plugins or modules that send MIDI (I think?). It would be easy to add though.
will certainly report back on how that usb<>din adapter fares.
here’s hoping we’ll be able to leverage the 3 core vcv midi output modules at some point as id love to control some synths via mm
Thanks. I browsed around and ordered a different one, just to see. Would be good to have a recommendation/known-working one.
Ok, right, we could use the Core MIDI modules, of course. I have it on the list.
Hi - I can confirm I was able to successfully connect a MIDI OUT DIN cable from my Electra One MIDI Controller into the MetaModule USB socket using a CME U2MIDI Pro adapter. I was then able to map and use MIDI CC messages from Electra One to module knobs (e.g,. on the Befaco Noise Plethora module in MM).
One thing I then noticed is if a module’s knob is mapped to both a MIDI CC and a physical pot on the MM, the MM UI only displays knob movement from a MIDI CC change. Rotating the pot still affects the behaviour of the module, but the knob display does not show that movement.
Ok great, thanks!
Interesting bug when mapping two things to one knob. I’ll check it out.
An example case, 1010music added USB audio i/o to the Bluebox just this year. (The Bluebox product has been available for years.) As an end user the beta testing cycle seemed very difficult. I was never able to get it to work without hum and I gave up trying.
The ability to connect multi-channel audio interfaces directly to the MM would be very helpful in adding more I/O to the unit. I know the expansion modules will take care of this, but if you have some hardly used audio interfaces laying around, it would be nice to be able to use them.
@danngreen is it possible to be a midi host so we can detect the es-9 and use its power and inputs? The mpc one does this now and it was awesome. Anyways I know ur not mpc lol
The MetaModule is a MIDI host already. But I don’t think the ES-9 can act as MIDI device…? It’s an audio interface. There’s a MIDI breakout for the ES-9 but that’s regular DIN5
finally had time to do some tests with it, the “yan New USB in-Out MIDI Interface” works really great thus far
https://www.amazon.com/yan-Interface-Converter-Keyboard-Adapter/dp/B07YC66PC5