# V2.0.0-dev-13.7 \[Sickolooper5\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports and Fixes\ **Created:** [April 13, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389 "2025-04-13T18:50:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/1 "2025-04-13T18:50:41Z")
I think this is a great looper, but it’s a pity that it doesn’t save the samples, even after trying with the save preset + loops. ---
**Author:** ![offthesky](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/offthesky/32/163_2.png) [@offthesky](https://forum.4ms.info/u/offthesky)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/2 "2025-04-14T16:12:39Z")
i haven’t had this problem with the sicko one (or canard). can you describe the exact steps you went through to recreate the issue? ---
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/3 "2025-04-14T17:07:25Z")
Hi, I’ve been experimenting a lot with the Sickolooper5 inside the MetaModule and I think it’s really great. The only issue is that when I save the patch (directly on the MM) and open it again later, the selected samples are empty. I have the .wav samples stored on the SD card. For context: I first build the patch in VCV without selecting any samples. Then, inside the MetaModule, I load the samples from the SD card — they play just fine. It’s just the saving part that doesn’t work. (file is attached) [sample machine new.yml](https://forum.4ms.info/uploads/short-url/bIhWX9nvTrX5DjmA0KqazRn6Pwa.yml) (41.8 KB) [sample machine new.vcv](https://forum.4ms.info/uploads/short-url/yGZZjwiNhyMRfIqSby2Ym8CMmao.vcv) (367.0 KB) ---
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/4 "2025-04-14T17:43:02Z")
I think I found the bug. When you create a new patch directly inside the MetaModule and choose the Sickolooper5, then scroll down, you don’t see the options menu (where you can normally import samples). You also can’t import any samples from there. However, if you create the Sickolooper5 in VCV first and then load it into the MM to edit, the options menu _does_ appear — but it doesn’t get saved within the MM patch. With the Sickolooper3, when you use it directly in the MM (without VCV), the options menu initially _does_ appear. But after importing a sample from the SD and saving the patch, then restarting and reopening it, the sample is gone and the options menu has disappeared too. ---
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/5 "2025-04-14T17:50:09Z")
I really hope this can be fixed, because the MM would be the perfect sampler performance tool for my live rig… ---
**Author:** ![offthesky](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/offthesky/32/163_2.png) [@offthesky](https://forum.4ms.info/u/offthesky)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/6 "2025-04-14T18:10:36Z")
i wonder if the options issue you’re experiencing is maybe related to this bug: > [@Options not showing up](https://forum.4ms.info/t/options-not-showing-up/1382): > > using latest [Beta Version Firmware v2.0.0-dev-13.7](https://github.com/4ms/metamodule/releases/download/firmware-v2.0.0-dev-13.7/metamodule-firmware-v2.0.0-dev-13.7-firmware-assets.zip) +plugs, the options are not accessible after loadin- playing this patch (system set to 48/128, plugins loaded: biddo, fund, mshack, bog): [12x Sample Loop Player.yml](https://forum.4ms.info/uploads/short-url/evYNKSV4YJ1ELpVYhuI3LSaNTc.yml) (23.0 KB) im using 12x 43.5 second 48k/16bit wav files all filled with brown noise. i can post a wetransfer link if that would help im noticing that the issue happens in some instance of canard in this patch, but not in other instances of canard. it feels random. so you might have… as far as the sample file reference not saving with the patch, possibly @sickozell might have some clues also have you tried the canard sampler module within the bidoo line? ive had some decent results with that one: > [@8x sample loop player](https://forum.4ms.info/t/8x-sample-loop-player/1190/6): > > requirements: latest beta dev firmware and plugins(latest bidoo is included in the download): [https://metamodule.info/downloads](https://metamodule.info/downloads) also works fine with system set to 48/128 to 512 (no more crackles since async was added to canard). update: works best with 8 70s 48khz/16b .wav files ---
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/7 "2025-04-14T18:18:31Z")
Thanks for the tip! That means the missing “options” must be a system bug and not directly related to the SickoLooper itself. Still, I’m not able to save any samples within the MM. I deliberately chose the Sicko because it doesn’t require additional mixers and has a master output for all 5 loopers — super convenient for my setup. ---
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/8 "2025-04-14T20:49:59Z")
I found a temporary solution to save the imported samples from within the MM using the SickoLooper5. I created a folder with loops on the MM’s SD card, and I export using “save preset + loops” to that folder — which I can then load again later. ---
**Author:** ![Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/user_avatar/forum.4ms.info/submit/32/249_2.png) [@Submit](https://forum.4ms.info/u/Submit)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.4ms.info/t/v2-0-0-dev-13-7-sickolooper5/1389/9 "2025-04-16T00:07:15Z")
I’ve switched to using all the samplers from Voxglitch — they work incredibly well, including the file management. Just save the .yml and all samples are there. ![Scherm­afbeelding 2025-04-16 om 02.09.26](https://forum.4ms.info/uploads/default/original/2X/7/79f1437525aa048bbca474a927fd4ab65bf54377.jpeg)